For the record, I don’t have a crush. I’m only into guys who have continually worn diapers throughout their adolescent and adult years. By Nikki Volpicelli.
N: You guys sound a bit jam-bandy. Tell me why I’m wrong.
Kelvin – I enjoy looseness as much as the next man, particularly in women and live performances but as a songwriter for a good number of years now I am all about structure. What I’m talking about is the encapsulation of an idea within a musical format that includes a hook, a melody, perhaps a bridge and is over and done with in about four minutes. That gem of modern culture we call the pop song. I know that our latest recording has a couple of songs that run to a whopping 6 minutes or so but the majority of songs I write stick to that four minute challenge. Live performances are an opportunity to expand on the basic song. It keeps it fresh.
Steve –I respect the talent of jam bands so I wouldn’t say it’s a bad thing to be pegged a bit ‘jam-bandy’, but I can only take it in small doses. I’ve never seen Phish live, but I’ve heard live recordings/DVDs and I just start getting kinda bored by the third 15 minute long jam.
Mike – yeah I agree with Steve. Really talented, not my cup of tea though. Mainly cause I don’t like pieces of shit in my tea. Nah im joking. I actually love playing jam band music but never got the concept of other people listening to it. Sitting in a basement or studio playing ridiculous songs that last 15 minutes on any instrument you can find is hilarious but having people pay to watch or listen to jam music just doesnt really make sense.
Bill – I don’t mind the comparison. I don’t hate jam bands at all, in fact there’s a few I’m a fan of. I agree with Steve how super long jams can get kind of boring without any structure, but I still think it’s a good quality for a band to have to be able to improvise and just play on a whim. We had a recent gig where we played a private event, and one of our songs has trippy middle section where we just improve jam, and it turned into a 20 minute drunken dance party before we came back into the main hook of the song.
N: Some of you are older, and some of you are younger, and one of you is British. How did you end up finding each other and is there anything lost in old-young-British translation? I had a roommate from New Zealand that always told me how pissed she was the night before. I didn’t know for months that just meant she was drunk. I had no idea what I was doing to make her so mad all the time.
Kelvin – In the very beginning Sabu, (the original percussionist), and myself were very lucky to have found a group of young guys to join us and put the time in to learn the songs we had, until then, practiced in our basement. From the word go the oldest members of the band have proved to be the youngest at heart. Sabu, God bless him, was a constant inspiration to me on how not to let life make you old…. ever. These young kids in the band are all serious about their careers and college work and so on and they take these responsibilties very seriously and live up to them. Something I have consistently failed at. Ask my ex-wives. As for the Englishisms, I occassionally get blank looks at certain things I say. I seem to remember the guys deriving a certain amount of mirth from the word “plectrum” for instance. I endeavour to remain aloof during such trivialities.
Steve – Bill and I met five or six years ago when my former crappy band was looking for a new drummer. That band was falling apart so I started looking at Craigslist for bands that needed a bassist. That’s how I met Kelvin…. I had to wade through a bunch of douchebags, ego-maniacs, etc. to find him. I quit the band and dragged Bill with me to play drums for The Absolute Zeros. We communicate in a series of grunts and moans so nothing gets lost in translation. As for the age thing, we’re all immature so it balances out. Seriously though, the age difference has never been an issue for us. When Sabu was still with us on this Earth, he added an awesome live element….. people would see this band with an age range from 20-50 and they wouldn’t know what to expect and it was cool to see their reactions. One of the coolest moments in my mind was when we played at West Chester U for a show to benefit VH1 “Save the Music.” Some of the frat brothers who organized the show invited us back out to a sorority party. While Bill and Austin (original lead guitarist) blended right in, me, Kelvin and (especially) Sabu really stuck out as the old fogies. But after about 10 minutes Sabu was out on the dance floor with a bunch of sorority chicks. Oh, and don’t let Kelvin fool you….. he is the only one in the band with children and he takes that responsibility very seriously! He’s not as aloof as he leads you to believe, haha.
Bill – Steve, I don’t think our old band was crappy, we were ok. Just our guitarist was a huge dick, and the bassist sucked (jk). Anyway, Steve and I had played for about a year so when we both started playing with Kelvin, it was kind of a package deal since we already had a bit of musical chemistry. As far as the cultural and age differences, it really doesn’t matter too much. We all connect on certain levels musically and personally. Kelvin’s Britishness has rubbed off on me a little, I’ve learned a new vocabulary, such as the referring to the trunk of a car as the “boot” (wtf??) and also using the “c word” as part of normal conversation as if it didn’t have the negative connotations it has here in the States.
Mike – This is going to make everyone reading this automatically asume im a tool but the truth is I met bill through a fraternity we were both in. He would bring it up when I saw him, but I only saw him at parties so I just assumed it was just bullshit drunk plans until he called me up to practice one day. I didnt really want to but I entered a verbal contract, drunk or not, so I had to join.
N: Is it hard to book bar venues when your drummer looks like he’s 18-years-old?
Steve – Not really, but it’s more difficult having to work around his curfew! For the record, Sharky is of legal drinking age now, but it was never a problem when he wasn’t. Zack Wolf, if you are reading this, we thank you! You know why!
Kelvin – Well, the honest truth is that, like any good student in this fair city, Sharky got a very good fake and was known by the excellent rock ‘n’ roll name of “Zack Wolf” whenever we played gigs…. oooops perhaps I shouldn’t have said that, oh well.
Bill – Usually they allow children under 18 in the bar when there is a parent/guardian present, so we just tell them Kelvin is Sharky’s dad so it just looks like we have that father/son band thing going on, like the new Van Halen lineup. They usually think it’s pretty cute.
Mike- Yeah, generally no one really cards the band members but I am in fact 21 now.
N: He was the last member to join the band… is that because he wasn’t finished breast feeding yet?
Mike – Yeah.
Steve – Actually, Sharky is the final product of years spent in the lab trying to create the perfect drummer. He’s our little test-tube baby.
Kelvin – Like I said earlier, Sharky is the oldest member of the band. He stoically ignores all my attempts to persuade him to join me in the slow inevitable regression of growing younger as the years pass by. He will probably become a fine, upstanding citizen of this glorious country.
Bill – He’s a little nervous about starting high school this fall but we keep telling him to not let the bullies pick on him too much.
N: If he’s getting a bit fussy you can tell him I’m only 22 so I don’t know why I’m talking like this. Or you can check his diaper there might be a surprise.
Steve – Nikki, I’m starting to think you might have a crush on him. I’m sensing some flirting going on here…. don’t they say that you always pick on the ones you like the most?
Kelvin – I’m with Steve here. Definitely spending an inordinate amount of time discussing the cute young little drummer here. I like the way you casually throw your age out there to make him aware that you’re pretty compatible really. That’s slick. Is it because Drummers exhibit such independent control of their limbs? Or is it that you like guys that spend their spare time pounding on things? Why don’t YOU come out and check his diaper eh? I’m sensing maybe you’d like that Nikki, huh?
Mike – was I an asshole to you when I met you or something? But really the jokes on all of you cause I never even used diapers as a kid. No lie. Not really by choice but no one had diapers in the Soviet Union, which is why im so happy to be in America now… you can buy diapers like a free man.
Bill – Oh I see, so that’s why you poop your pants at every gig?
N: In 2007, you guys started playing “anywhere and everywhere” in the Philadelphia area. I’d like to know if that include birthday parties and Bar Mitzvah’s and why dontchya tell me about one of the strangest shows and why it was so strange.
Steve – We did play at Bill’s sister’s high school graduation and his uncle’s birthday party. There are two weird shows that stick out in my mind though… the first was in this old warehouse out in the Fishtown area back in early 2007. It was one of our first gigs with the original line up (and the first gig with our former lead guitarist, Austin). I answered a listing on Craigslist from someone at the “Rock Club of Philadelphia” and they were supposed to be putting on this big show on campus at UPenn. It got moved at the last minute and when we arrived at this warehouse/art studio it was just this family of hippies and a few of their friends. The guy who was running the whole thing was this burnt out former hippie with one hand. It was very bizarre. Lots of people just spinning in circles all night long. The second show was at Doc Watson’s when the club first re-opened back in early 2007. They were still kinda getting back into the whole music scene and hadn’t really established a true booking agent or sound crew yet. We got to the show and this guy who was probably in his late 50s or early 60s was the sound guy. That’s not such a bad thing except the dude had two hearing aids. The sound was terrible. At one point when we were trying to set up, we asked for his help and he said, “You’re gonna have to wait, I’m getting ready to eat my wings!” He fell asleep on the sound board about half way through our set.
Bill – Yeah, that “Rock Club of Philadelphia” gig is definitely #1 for strangest shows. Steve left out that the one handed hippie dude had two daughters who belly-danced to one of our songs, which was actually the one cool part of the show. I want to say they were hot but I can’t because pretty sure they were under 18. We’ve had a few other shows in weird places that I’ll never forget. We once played in New York City at some sketchy dirty strip club…that was fun. It was tough dragging Kelvin away from the 50-year-old dancers when it was time for us to go on stage.
Kelvin – Yeah, those two gigs were pretty weird. Playing upstairs in a strip joint in New York was pretty interesting too. Needless to say we walked out of that gig with no money to show for it. Of course, none of them hold a candle to some of the gigs I did in my former life in Amsterdam but that’s another story.
Mike – Not with these guys. Some of the bands in middle and high school, dozens.
N: Why did you guys decide to produce two EP’s, which are comprised of 13 songs in total, and not a full length album?
Mike – Steve?
Steve – The first EP kinda took on a life of its own. We were simply recording some demos at an inexpensive studio just to have some music to put on Myspace and send to booking agents. After recording a few songs we just decided to make it our first EP . It was a really rough recording and it turned out pretty cool and lo-fi. The most recent EP, “Irredeemable” is a combination of songs that were written under our original line up and new songs with Bill on lead guitar (he used to play drums for us) and Sharky behind the kit. Plus recording is f’ing expensive and this was all we could really afford right now. Hopefully a full length album will be our next project. Oh, and for the record, our first EP is actually 8 songS. There’s a hidden track at the end of the final track if you wait about a minute for it to kick in.
Kelvin – Steve said it all there. We didn’t really “decide” to do the first one it just happened as the band was forming. Money is always a deciding factor in these things. We have more than enough songs for another full length album. We felt that it was a good time to release something in the interim and we had a small collection of recordings from a few seperate projects. The new line-up and length of time since the eponymous release also galvanised us into doing something to keep it interesting.
Bill – The two EPs are very different, mostly in that they are three years apart and have very different lineups. We had a lot of growth in the band in the time between the two albums, with myself moving to guitar and also adding a new drummer, and also enduring the loss of the percussionist Sabu Rex. Some of the songs are newer that we put together with the new lineup, while other ones we have been playing live since the release of the first one.
N: Do you have future plans for a full album?
Steve- We have more than enough material for a full length album at this point, t’s just a matter of getting money in order to produce it (or getting some generous soul to fund it for us!)
Kelvin – I have future plans to conquer the world, punch George W. Bush in the face, sire a child with each of the Spice Girls and mould the offspring into the next pop super family group, learn how to ride a unicycle under water while juggling, complete my life-sized, balsa wood model of the Eiffel Tower on wheels, puke on a red carpet and record a full length album. Not necessarily in that order.
Bill – We actually have plans for a deluxe special edition greatest hits box set that will be probably released in fall 2027 which could be yours for four easy payments of $19.99 if you call now.
Mike – I generally dont get involved in anything but playing drums. I know my place
N: Do you think Less Than Zero was a fictional drama or do you think it was an obvious foreshadowing on Robert Downey Jr.’s imminent future?
Mike: I think Robert Downey is a actor but I’m not sure what anything else means in that statement.
Kelvin – ???
Steve – I’m with Kelvin, I never saw the movie, but I’m assuming it had to do with him diving nose first into a few lines?
Bill – The first Iron Man was pretty good but I heard the second one sucked.
N: I really liked the movie until I found out he was S’ing all those D’s. It’s just like Basketball Diaries. I like movies where a misunderstood teen with a bad home life spirals out of control into a drug-addled demise just as much as the next person, but when they start following old dudes in suits into dingy bathroom stalls is when the magic stops. For me at least.
Kelvin – For me that would be one of the very few movies where S’ing D’s led to a LOSS of interest.
N: If you guys sold your music to Fearnet, what movie would you want it to be featured in? You can pretty much make up a movie name because I don’t think anyone knows one by heart. Make sure it’s got blood, guts, wolves, or jackhammers in it though.
Mike - I dont really watch movies. but ill say the one that Kevin Bacon is in.
Kelvin – Well in that case I guess it would be “Jackhammer My Boody, Vulpine Guts” then.
Steve – Well, I can’t really top that name so I’m not even going to try. Vulpine? Seriously?? Bloody Englishmen and their superior grasp of the English language. Oooo, come to think of it, that’s not a bad idea for a horror movie! A bunch of bloody British Zombies who spout out pompous phrases just before eating your brain! That’s the movie I’d like to provide the soundtrack to.
Bill – Steve, that movie with British zombies already came out, it was called “Shaun of the Dead.”
Steve – Oh yeah…..Bloody hell!